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megaTEN ([personal profile] tenshinoakuma) wrote2011-06-13 10:56 am

What, MORE character analysis?

OKAY I am not allowed to tweak my Onion Knight app any more. NO MORE. I kind of think it's more scattered than I'd like but whatever, I AM DONE. Except not really; I'll probably tweak the sample a bit more hrhfgh.

I am having a small brain fart though. DISSIDIA PEOPLE I NEED YOUR ETERNAL WISDOM because if I start playing Dissidia to check this I will not study. Do the Warriors of Cosmos Team Cosmos ever find out about the existence of the cycles in the 13th cycle? I don't actually remember if they do or do not.


Haha one thing I re-realised after going through Onion Knight's voice clips in game that ha ha ha he is such a kid :V I think one thing that my Onion Knight app fails to convey is how judgemental and bratty he can be, and while, for the most part, I don't think I'm having issues with keeping Onion Knight and Joshua's characters different in my headspace (kind of surprising), I think I might be having some issues separating bratty from dickery.

I think the main difference between the two is that Onion Knight's brattiness comes from comparing others in relation to himself (i.e. he's very self-centered. His view of the world is firmly placed in his own shoes), while Joshua's dickery comes from viewing himself in relation to others.

I guess you could say it's like this:
Onion Knight - "Those lunkheads are nowhere as near as smart as me."
Joshua - "I'm not as shallow as them."

It's a small distinction, but I think it's an important one, nevertheless. When he's being all cocky and overconfident, Onion Knight is comparing his AWESOMENESS to everyone else's not-as-awesomeness. When he's unsure, he's comparing his inexperience with Cecil's experience. He judges people based on how they compare to himself. Basically, he uses himself as the measuring stick.

Joshua, on the other hand, I think he measures himself against others (I don't think this is conscious). He's the one to make the hard decisions in Shibuya because the others would prefer to pussyfoot around (in his opinion). He gets all judgemental about others because they're terrible and he's nowhere as near as bad as them.

I guess it basically boils down to that Onion Knight's brattiness stems from stroking his ego, while Joshua's dickery involves belittling others. While Onion Knight does insult others, I think the focus is still on himself and his smarts, comparing them to him.

[identity profile] sinnatious.livejournal.com 2011-06-13 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yup! ExDeath and Garland and a good chunk of the other Chaos warriors taunt them about it after Cosmos dies.

It is hard to make someone come across as a brat without being a dick. About the only differentiation I can figure out is how people to react to it. i.e. if they roll their eyes and take it good-naturedly, the comment is bratty. If they get angry or offended or hurt feelings, the offender is a dick. It's in the delivery, maybe? Though I think you've hit on a pretty good distinction too, but I'm not sure how you'd be able to differentiate that in writing, since the nuances are so very subtle indeed.

Maybe it just comes down to whether the character is likeable or not! Like how rich and famous people are eccentric, but poor people are crazy!
Edited 2011-06-13 03:32 (UTC)

[identity profile] levikitty.livejournal.com 2011-06-13 04:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the warriors know the other cycles exist. It was the big plot twist at the end of WoL's story. Before that, the game tries to make it sound that it was a continuous ongoing war and that the ten warriors are the only ones who have been strong enough to live this long.